Episode 12: The One With the Bird and the Bugs that Dumbles
Introduction
Alex: [As Hagrid] Budge up there. [As Trelawney] Has it started yet? My Inner Eye was a little cloudy on the details. [As Flitwick] Not yet Sibyl, you are just in time. [As Lucius Malfoy] Dobby, turn up the volume. [As Dobby] Dobby will crank it, sir. [As Twelawney] What are we watching again? [As Hagrid] Hogwarts Radio. [As McGonagall] If Dumbledore had figured out his browser… [As Snape] I’m quite capable, thank you very much. [As Umbridge] Hem hem. Pardon me, Headmaster, but under Educational Decree Number 31, the public exhibition of radio outside the Ministry’s control… [As himself] Wait. Which one of my critically acclaimed audio books are we listening to?
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CJ: You are listening to Hogwarts Radio Episode Number Twelve for November 9, 2008.
Eric: Yeah. That was- that was a good idea, so lets talk about Alex getting fired.
[Jackie laughs]
Terrance: No.
Jackie: Alex wasn’t fired.
Eric: Alex Bourque getting fired for his mean Terrance impression. What was it? What was it he did, Terrance, to upset you? What was it he said? He – Who did he call and talk to and pretend it was you?
Jackie: He called – he was teasing him with Tatiana. He was talking to Tatiana behind his back. Remember that one time you, me, and him were talking and he kept saying things to Tatiana?
Terrance: What?
Jackie: When- okay nevermind. Like he was getting you in trouble.
Eric: Did he really do a Terrance impression?
Jakcie: No.
Eric: Oh okay, well then it’s…
Jackie: Wasn’t he like talking to Tatiana though? Like telling her stuff.
Terrance: I don’t remember that. I mean…
Eric: Anyway. Ladies and gentlemen Alexander Bourke is still with us, just not on this episode.
Terrance: Yes, yes just want to make that clear. Alex is still with the show. He did decide to go ahead and take a small break, but hey we’re here. There’s four of us this week, and we actually have a guest host, and we’re going to make this show pretty cool. Yeah that’s totally hip, and I can say cool because I’m the host. So…
Eric: Yeah, yeah he’s right he really can.
Jackie: Okay so who’s are special guest this week, Terrance?
Terrance: Our special guest this is Jeremy from HPANA.com. Hey, Jeremy, how are you doing today?
Jeremy: Good, how about you?
Terrance: I’m doing good you sound like your streaming from across the ocean. Where are you?
Jeremy: I am in Northern California.
[Eric laughs]
Terrance: Oh, well close enough.
[Eric and Terrance laugh]
Eric: Well, maybe in a thousand years Terrance, when California breaks off from the rest of the continental U.S. He will be indeed across an ocean.
Terrance: Yes, yes it’ll be closer to Japan.
Jeremy: Stranger things have happened.
Eric: Hmm? Stranger things have happened.
Terrance: Yes they have, so lets go ahead and get to todays show. I’m Terrance.
Jackie: I’m Jackie.
Eric: I’m Eric.
Jeremy: I’m Jeremy.
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News
Terrance: So we’re going to go ahead and throw it on over to Eric who has tied Andy up and thrown him in the Hogwarts Radio news studio closet, and Eric is going to be doing the news this week. Eric?
Eric: Yes. Ok, news for this week we have first up – David Heyman speaks more on Half-Blood Prince delay. In his interview, David Heyman spoke more about the delay of the sixth Harry Potter flick. “The film is complete barring one small change.” By one small change they mean the entire Burrow fire scene. That’s not official. The film is also being kept separate until just before the release to prevent any leaks of the movie itself. Second, on November 10th Daniel Radcliffe will make an appearance on the Today Show on NBC and will discuss his role in Equus on Broadway. For more on this story visit danradcliffe.com.
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Eric: And last but not least, Emma Watson has updated her official site with some information regarding – with some information regarding her preparation for Deathly Hallows the film and on her site she states that she’s rereading the seventh instalment in the book series in order to prepare herself for filming and that she cannot put it down. She also says reading it for a second time has made it no less addicting and expresses interest in her upcoming film which she provides a voice for. It is the Tale of Despereaux, said to hit theatres this December. That’s pretty much it for this news this week on Hogwarts Radio from the news dungeon. Andy says “Hi!” from the closet and back to you, Terrance.
Terrance: Alright thanks Eric, so David Heyman speaks a little bit more about the delay in Half-Blood Prince. He actually tells us that the film is complete, it just needs one small change and…
Eric: Well, my view it’s been months since the first screening in Chicago so the film is complete now. It doesn’t mean they didn’t take into account what everyone said and the theatre when they screened it.
Terrance: Do you think everyone had the same opinion on that same one scene that caused them to go in there and change it or do you think they already had it picked out already?
Eric: I’m not sure. I’m not going to give anyone too much credit, but what I mean by that is it could be either one. Maybe they thought it was potentially changeable before the screening and that everyone who – their focus group I’m talking about – they listen to could’ve convinced them to change it or not but yeah currently David Heyman did say that they have one more change to make and that the film will be locked and also kept in separate pieces which was what I found very interesting about the article that they won’t put the film together until just a few weeks you know before they actually – before the film’s due out.
Jackie: I know a part they’re changing guys. I know a part they’re changing.
Terrance: What part?
Jackie: They listened to Hogwarts Radio Episode 11, and they decided since we all hated that one part on – you know – at the end of the trailer they decided they’re just going to cut that out.
[Jeremy laughs]
Eric: You guys hated that?
Terrance: I thought it was – hey! I didn’t. They did. So…
Eric: Guys – you – Jackie, you have no taste.
Jackie: Come on that part was terrible.
Eric: Oh what? Is that the one with Harry and he’s like “I am the Chosen One.”?
Jackie: Yeah. Come on. God, Eric, don’t tell me you liked that.
Eric: No, I loved it. He needs to have more of that because you don’t get that sense of Harry – you know – in the scene with Buckbeak, when Hagrid is trying to get Harry to bow to Buckbeak, and Harry is – you know – picked out – he doesn’t want to volunteer, but Hagrid makes him. Luckily everything goes well, and Hagrid just picks Harry on up and lifts him completely up to set him on Buckbeak to ride him – to fly. Do you guys remember that scene at all from the third movie?
Terrance: I remember that from Titanic – you know.
Eric: No, no, no, no, no. That was the scene after.
[All laugh]
Eric: Remember when Hagrid picks him up, he’s like “Hey…
Terrance: Yeah.
Eric: …Hagrid, Hagrid! Wait, no! Put me down!”
[All laugh]
Eric: It’s just the moment that I loved in the third movie when Hagrid picks him up – this is a moment that is like that because – well, it’s not quite like that, but there are moments like that that show Harry doesn’t really want to be in the situation he’s in with – it’s a particular way of expression that we don’t – that doesn’t quite get translated from the books, and so for Harry to be embracing this whole, well “I am the Chosen One” – you know – da da da how you doing – sort of thing.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: It’s – I think not only conducive to the plot but essential. I’m – I was very pleased with that scene at the end of the trailer. I don’t know – what do you think Jeremy?
Jeremy: Well, I just want to know if – what do you think about it in the film versus the trailer because I kind of thought it kind of stuck out from the rest of the trailer being so dark and all of a sudden they added this humorious scene.
Eric: Yeah.
Jeremy: And so I think – I mean – I obviously – I haven’t seen the film, but I think that it probably would have made me have a different reaction if I had seen it in a film rather then at the end of a trailer.
Eric: That’s an amazing observation and yes, probably true because the – there are moment like that in the movie. See, the thing though – it’s interesting because this trailer – which, did WB comment on this trailer at all since it’s been…
Jeremy: They did.
Eric: They did?
Jeremy: They said that it was prepared for the – I think it was the Asian market before it was prepared for – before they announced the push back of the date, and this is – it hasn’t been confirmed I don’t think but I remember getting an email from – it was some foreign website. I think it was Potterish, or I’m not sure which one it was. but they said that it was leaked from – it was prepared months ago and then leaked.
Eric: Huh. You’re very good at what you do, Jeremy, by the way.
Jeremy: Thank you.
Eric: Yeah, because that recollection was awesome. That’s really cool and good to know. So, yeah that scene and what that trailer did was – it was kind of showcased actually, how dark the movie is because you’re – you’re right. The first 98% of the movie is dark, everything is on fire – you know – people are running and then there was this sort of seemingly out of place laughter at the end, and it is more out of place in the trailer then it is in the movie because the movie I think kind of prides itself on having those humorious moments amidst everything. It’s more crafted in the movie because you’ll have a scene of happiness and then a few scenes of darkness and then a few more scenes of – you know – sort of – it’s basically more well crafted is what I’ll say. The film is very dark but the moments that are humorious don’t seem forced and don’t seem out of place. It kind of, in a way – it made me feel like no other movie has in the way that it sort of just follows the story, and how people are reacting to the events in the story, and it’s not fast-paced in the way that it’s all of a sudden spring time, but in fact – you know – very well spread out through out the whole year. The film – you know – it has those moments of either notable happiness or notable sadness and so – in the trailer it is out of place. That’s a great observation, because it was. And it did seem a little bit weird, so…
Jeremy: Okay I found the – I found what – exactly what their comment was at the end. It says “The trailer that spilled this week was done for the Asian market, and would be released months before the movie. With the postponement of the movie it was on standby, but as you know it was just leaked.” So, that was from scarpotter.com. It hasn’t been confirmed, I don’t think. But…
Eric: Huh.
Jeremy: …Supposedly that’s what their comment was.
Eric: Cool.
Terrance: Okay. Getting back to the actual news story here. I think it’s really interesting that the film is being kept in separate pieces just until before the release to prevent any leaks from the movie itself. Now what I’m curious to know is do they have just one copy of this movie, to where if they screw up whenever they edit together and they’re like “Whoops! Well, there goes nine months of filming.”
[Eric and Jeremy laugh]
Eric: No, Terrance. But at the same time, on that same ticket, what would happen if this movie was leaked? Because they – there’s no turning back! There’s absolutely no turning back. Not only have they filmed, shot, and done this movie but they held it from the public for months and months and months. And if it’s mostly completed except for one shot, they have to do everything they can because people are going to be looking for it and people are – I mean – that’s a lot of money to make off of it, if someone leaks it out early or if it just – if it’s just leaked, WB is really screwed because this was supposed to be their money maker for next summer.
Terrance: But I mean come on. How many of the Harry Potter films have been leaked? You know – and…
Eric: In advance?
Terrance: In advance. Yeah.
Eric: Well, whether or not they’re Harry Potter movies, remember you have to consider this is a movie being made in 2008 and 2009, and so it’s six or seven years ahead of where it was to start, so every year any film that’s made is a little bit safer – I’d like to think anyway – from piracy and being release before the actual date through the web. However that did not stop Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows the book from being released in e-text a week before the book came out.
Terrance: That’s true.
Eric: Horrible shame. A horrible shame.
Terrance: There was a ton of security around that too, and just to show you how much – if somebody is really adamant about it they can actually do that. I mean, how do movies make it out on the internet in the first place? So…
Eric: And again, I mean that was very – that was very different in a way, because the book had to be type-set and completed and be in electronic format because it needed to be sent out and printed months and months and months – because they needed to print – you know – ten million, ten hundred million copies – however many they did, and so a lot of different people saw and had it. With a movie I think it’s at least one studio and only one studio that’s doing it – that’s releasing it. They have a United States and UK division and obviously places elsewhere – but I think it’ll be – I mean – you asked if it’s just one copy and [if they] accidently screw it up or cut a few frames, it’ll be lost. But I think not, I think they have plenty of stuff somewhere but it – what they mean by pieces I think is a slightly different – like, it’s not – if people get one file it’ll still be only part of the film. Like say it’s digital; even though it won’t be. It’s things like that. I don’t know enough about how films are kept but I don’t think it’s quite too harzardous – quite dangerous.
Equus and The Today Show
Terrance: Okay! So the next news story is Daniel Radcliffe is scheduled to make an appearance on NBC’s The Today Show on Monday morning at about nine o’clock or so. And he’s going to discuss not – you know – not so much Harry Potter but what he’s actually in New York for right now. And that of course being Equus which is playing now on Broadway I believe through to February?
Jeremy: I’m not sure exactly on the dates.
Terrance: But I mean this is a chance – of course, you know, he’s forever going to be typecasted as Harry Potter. This is a chance for Dan to really sit down and talk about something other than Potter. Talk about what he’s actually doing now. I’ve heard nothing but – you know – mad reviews from – you know – from Equus on Broadway about – about Harry’s… I mean [laughs] about Dan’s performance.
[Jeremy laughs]
Eric: Jeez. [laughs] People like you are the problem, Terrance.
Jackie: Yeah, Terrance!
Eric: [laughs] Typecasting… He will forever be typecast!
Jackie: He is a person not a character!
Eric: Jackie, have you seen Equus?
Jackie: I haven’t, not yet.
Eric: Gosh – you live there don’t you?
Jackie: I know I live, like, half an hour outside the city I just haven’t had any time. Or the money. [laughs]
Terrance: Yeah. Are you planning on going to see it?
Jackie: I guess. I think I will.
Terrance: Yeah.
Eric: I think Shannon’s dad was outbid for the tickets at Terminus. They had two tickets.
Terrance: Oh.
Jackie: He was.
Eric: Yeah.
Jackie: He was bidding on them like crazy. It was him and another woman, like, duking it out. [laughs]
Eric: Yeah. Totally.
Jackie: It was fun.
Emma Watson in The Tales of Desperaux
Eric: Jackie, have you read The Tales of Desperaux?
Jackie: No, I haven’t! It’s a book? I didn’t know it was a book!
Eric: Dude, it’s a children’s book! It’s awesome. It’s illustrated and everything. [laughs]
Jackie: Coolness! Oh my god I’ve got to go read that.
Eric: At least I thought it was. Hang on.
Terrance: I didn’t even know…
Jackie: Google that.
Terrance: …What it was. I didn’t even know she was working on it. Even though we did a show about it.
Jackie: We’ve mentioned it before!
Terrance: I know.
Jackie: We’re like: ‘Oh my god! Cute little children’s movie!’
Eric: Yeah I know it’s a book. It is a book.
Jackie: Sweet!
Eric: It’s by the author Kate DeCamillo. It’s a book. I thought so. I thought I saw it illustrated but regardless they turned it into – you know – the movie that is – you know – Emma Watson’s helping voice. I don’t know if any of you had read it but that’s the third news story. And I just wanted to know if any of you had read it. It’s a Newbury Book Award. It’s got the – the 2004 Newbury Medals so actually that’s really new.
Terrance: She was supposed to be doing a person…
Jackie: But there’s trailers.
Terrance: What is the voice she’s supposed to be doing? What is that character part?
Eric: Princess Pea, I think. P-E-A.
Terrance: Princess… Pea…
Jeremy: And you know who else is in it? Robbie Coltrane.
Terrance: Really?
Jackie: [gasps] No way!
Jeremy: Yeah, he – I’m looking at the IMDB page and it says he voices the character Gregory.
Terrance: Awesome.
Jackie: Oh, that’s so cool.
Eric: Yeah.
Jackie: Wow! A lot of awesome people are in that movie, Christopher Lloyd, Dustin Hoffman.
Eric: Woah! Sigourney Weaver. Matthew Broderick, Kevin Klein
Terrance: Oh, wow.
Eric: William H. Macey, Richard Jenkins.
Jackie: Sweet.
Eric: Okay, were all going to see that movie.
Jackie: when does that come out?
Eric: December 19th.
Jackie: Aw sweet. Okay. Im going to go see that.
Terrance: So moving right along to some updates that we have, some announcements about the show. Of course we told you before we have Jeremy from HPANA joining us today. Jeremy do you want to tell everybody out there how you got into Harry Potter and all of that other stuff really quick?
Jeremy: Sure, when I was quite young back, probably eight or nine years ago, my brother got me into it. I actually read the first book with him and finished it right when the first movie came out. I went and saw the movie and I loved it and things went from there. I got all of the books when they came out and it was actually quite a while until I joined the Internet community of Harry Potter. A couple of years ago and as they say, the rest is history.
Terrance: Awesome.
Eric: Yeah, you know guys, you never hear about someone seeing the first movie who read the book Did anyone who read the books not like the first movie? I mean I think that the first two movies were really You can say what you want about them but I think that they were really welcoming. I think I mean I got hooked through the movie first, before I understood the merits of the book. I think that the movies just out on a thought of what Jeremy was saying about the invitingness and they really were sort of a nice portal into the world. Wouldnt you say?
Jeremy: Well, I just think they really got across the magic of Harry Potter. Just because they werent as dark, especially the first one, as say, Order of the Phoenix. Also I thought it was inviting to younger audiences and I think a lot of us were young back then or relatively young.
Eric: Yeah.
Jeremy: I thought that it played to the fandom at that point and now as the fandom gets older theyre making the movies darker and I think now they play well to us at our current age.
Eric: Yeah, I mean there were people of all ages in the fandom, then and now, but it was just so innocent back then. John Williams of course, composing the theme was just, it fit so well didnt it?
Jeremy: Yeah, the soundtrack really worked with the first two movies.
Show Announcements
Terrance: So, moving right along here, some more show announcements. We still need more transcribers. So if youre interested e-mail our head transcriber at Shannon at hogwarts radio dot com if youre interested
Eric: Write it down. For good measure.
Jackie: Do it. This is us talking to you. We need transcribers.
[All laugh]
Terrance: The transcriber team is doing a great job. Theyve already got three episodes out, transcribed. The three most recent episodes. And they’re just working like crazy to get them out. So, guys thank you very much – and gals thank you very much for – for doing what you’re doing. It’s greatly appreciated. Also, vote for us on Podcast Alley because we are currently number thirty – nine. [laughs] We are the lowest we’ve been in probably two months, so it doesn’t…
Jackie: We are again beached.
Terrance: Yeah, we – we’re so far beached that we’re past the beach.
Eric: And onto the…
Jackie: We are on the freeway…
[Eric and Terrance laugh]
Jackie: …To the beach!
[Jeremy laughs]
Jackie: Help us; we’re going to get hit by a car!
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: Oh gosh, Jackie, you are so dramatic. Vote for us on Podcast Alley or we’ll get hit by a car!
[Jackie and Terrance laugh]
Terrance: Speaking…
Eric: We can see the headlights!
Terrance: Speaking of…
Jackie: It’s not even a car; it’s a truck. So…
Get Back on the Forums!
Terrance: Speaking of being dead. Our forums are dead. We need a boost and Jackie’s been trying to start up a couple of topics for the hosts where…
Jackie: Yeah, I actually…
Terrance: Yeah, where you can actually…
Jackie: …we can expand the forums…
Terrance: …Host – I’m sorry, answer questions for the hosts. So, she did a great job with that the other night, and some of the hosts have already posted answers to it. So…
Eric: Okay, what do you mean “dead”? Do you mean not working dead, or simply no one’s posting on them?
Terrance: No one’s posted on…
Jackie: Like dead – like – barren wasteland dead.
Terrance: Like…
Jackie: Like no one’s posted on them.
Terrance: Like ever since the Death Eaters – you know – attacked, our forums – what – about three weeks ago or so it’s been – yeah, they’ve been dead. So, we need to bring them back.
Eric: Did they cast the Dark Mark there? Did they put Dementors there?
Terrance: They did.
Eric: Are there Dementors on the forums?
Terrance: No clue.
Jackie: No there’s not. There’s still hope. Everybody, go to the forums!
[Eric, Jeremy, and Terrance laugh]
Eric: There’s still hope. [laughs]
Terrances Sound Byte Challenge
Terrance: And last but least, I do have a Listener Challenge. Call it what you want. Call it “Listener Challenge”, call it “Terrance’s…
Jackie: Lame.
Terrance: Not lame. [laughs]
Eric: Call it – call it…
[Jeremy laughs]
Jackie: All right, everybody.
Terrance: Just call it what you want, but here’s my challenge to all you out there. I want you to e-mail in a sound bit saying “Hogwarts Radio, your new number one Potter podcast”. That’s it. I have a great idea with this. I’m going to showcase my editing skills and it’s – I’m actually going to incorporate it into the beginning of the show – the beginning of each show. So, it’s going to be pretty awesome if we can get enough people. Get whoever you want to up there. Just the criteria is you have to say those exact words. You have to be clear, you can’t sound like that you’re – you know – in a bathroom or anything like that. It has to be as clear as we’re coming to you now.
[Eric laughs]
Eric: And if you have a diverse voice or an interesting accent…
Terrance: Yes.
Eric: …More the better.
Jackie: Yes. All you Australians and everybody from different countries, I love accents, so just send in your sound bites.
Terrance: As always you can just e-mail us…
[Jackie mumbles]
Terrance: …Personally at our first names at hogwartsradio.com. E-mail in – you know – we like to sit there and chat with the fans, and listen to some feedback, and stuff like that. So…
Eric: [laughs] Terrance, you have to get me my login information.
Terrance: [laughs Oh, wow.
[Eric laughs]
Terrance: We’ll work on that for you, Eric. We’ll get that right to you.
Eric: I am unable to read if anyone sent me anything.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: I’m sorry. Terrance…
Jackie: So if you’ve been wondering why Eric Scull has been ignoring you. Now you know why.
Owl Post
Terrance: so, let’s go ahead and move to some e-mails this week. We only got a couple so I’m going to go ahead and give those to you guys really quick. First and foremost the first e-mailer writes in “Hi guys. Firstly, I wanted to say that you guys do an awesome job. I love listening to the podcast each week. I agree also that the chemistry among you is really great. I just had a comment about last episode’s trailer discussion when you said Lavender looked like Hermione. My sister who’s a movie watcher and has no idea about the actual plot saw this trailer and thought it was Hermione, so she was surprised. So I definitely agree with the comment that maybe they did this on purpose to confuse movie-goers. Also, I read that the thing that McGonagall is casting is a dark mark and that really confused me. Why would McGonagall cast the dark mark? I have to agree with your comments that the funny scene at the end was really unnatural and…”
Eric: What’d she say?
Terrance: “… and I agree if Harry actually did that then that was really natural. But I don’t think it’s something that Harry would actually do. I don’t think it went well…”
Jackie: Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Terrance: “Well, that’s all…”
Jackie: Okay continue.
Terrance: “You guys are awesome. P.S. Greyson, I’m working on getting a bird.” Oh geeze. Here we go with the whole ending scene. Let’s go ahead and start out with a little part about Lavender and how she looked like Hermione. You know I first saw it and I had to pause it. I admit I was fooled.
Jackie: I thought it looked like her.
Eric: Okay even having seen the movie I – in the trailer while watching I got confused.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: I don’t – I didn’t even know at first if that was intentional or not because once you see her act it’s quite different. You know – she’s not Hermione but just from the look and everything – the way her hair is I think you can kind of make that comparison. It’s very interesting. Very, very, very interesting what they’ve done with the Lavender character and how she appears in the trailer. I can see exactly where people are getting confused, and it’s very shocking. Or exciting in – wow.
Terrance: What about the – What about the scene where it looks like McGonagall and I think we agreed last week that it was Hagrid shooting up that lightning into the – into the sky. I don’t think that was.
Eric: It’s McGonagall who shoots it.
Jeremy: Yeah.
Jackie: Wasn’t it McGonagall shooting the lightening up?
Eric: It’s McGonagall’s arm…
Jeremy: It is.
Eric: It’s not even in the movie.
Terrance: Well it might be now. That might be the small change.
Eric: I swear. [groans] [laughs]
Jackie: No. I think we’re – I think…
Terrance: I don’t think that McGonagall will be casting the dark mark. That’d just be.
Eric: I hate this. It’s my least favorite shot.
Jackie: That would be weird.
Eric: Well see she’s not casting the dark mark but she’s not – that’s not the – That’s my least favourite scene.
Jackie: But…
Eric: That’s my least favourite scene from – or not from the movie. Not from my movie. That’s my least favorite shot from the trailer because it’s at a different angle from what I remember being in the movie and it’s – unhelpful because your looking at Hagrid and then an arm pops up, and you think he’s casting a spell, but it’s not his arm and you’re like well what the heck and the movie – and everything’s on fire. The trailer’s going so fast and it’s just horrible. Horrible horrible shot. I want to find whoever pieced that thing together and ask them why they put that shot there because that’s total crap. It has everyone confused, and it’s all sped up. I think I addressed that either on the live MuggleCast or on the Hogwars Radio.
Terrance: The funny scene at the end – okay we’ve talked about this I think we’re beating a dead horse here. I thought it was natural. I thought it was funny. I thought it was witty. Apparently people don’t think so.
Jackie: I don’t think so.
Jeremy: I’m with you Terrance.
Eric: And there we stand divided, and I think it was natural. I think it was natural, enjoyable and wonderful and – and – and – and – and – awesome.
[Terrance laugh]
Jackie: You’re all wrong. You’re all terribly wrong! [laughs]
Terrance: I’m going to use my hosting powers Jackie and cut you off. [evil laughs] No. [laughs]
[Eric and Jeremy laugh]
Terrance: So our next email – so our next email reads: “Hey Hogwarts Radio Crew, oh my god – I love you guys! I found you via MuggleCast, and now I can’t stop listening. I love the music you have at the beginning of your show, it draws me in and makes me want to keep listening. I’m not going to pick favourites but I was listening to Episode Eight and Greyson, you’re absolutely hilarious when you talked about your venture into the pet shop. But that’s a good thing, because I love to laugh and listening to your story is a good distraction during computer class. But when you were talking about the birds, it made me think of my bird which died and I found it at the bottom of the cage covered in bugs. It was really gross. I got so freaked out in my house because it’s like a breeding ground for cockroaches. I only get angry at them when they crawl all over my Harry Potter posters, and unfortunately Harry can’t ward them off with a spell from inside his poster dimension. Anyway, you guys rock and make me wish I was on a podcast because it sounds so awesome. From, Kassi.”
[Jeremy laughs]
Terrance: So thanks Kassi for the email and we most certainly hope that you continue to keep listening to the show, and try to keep the bugs off your computer at least! Okay.
Main Discussion: Character Analysis on Ron Weasley
Terrance: So let’s go ahead and get to our main discussion: the – since our character discussion on Snape and Bellatrix was so popular – we got a lot of good feedback about that – we’re going to go ahead and continue that today. And our character discussion is going to be Ron Weasley. Just a little bit…
Jeremy: [as Ron in the Potter Puppet Pals] Ron Weasley!
Terrance: Ron… [laughs]
Jeremy: [as Ron in the Harry Potter Puppet Pals] Ron… Ron… Ron… Ron Weasley!
Jackie: [laughs] I love Neil. He’s awesome.
Eric: Neil’s awesome.
Jackie: [laughs] But back to Ron.
Terrance: So – he is awesome. He’s an awesome pureblood, Gryffindor, and he – well, was a Gryffindor – to post-reading Epilogue. But his full name is Ronald – is it Billus? Billius?
Eric, Jackie, and Jeremy: Billius.
Terrance: …Weasley. So we’re going to talk a little bit about Ron today. Let’s go ahead and say a little bit about Ron’s family.
Jackie: He has three older brothers. Right? Three? No – five? No.
Terrance: Somebody google this. [laughs]
Jackie: Charlie, Bill, Fred, George – he has four older brothers…
Terrance: And Charlie.
Jackie: …And one younger sister.
Jeremy: Percy also.
Jackie: Five! [laughs]
Jeremy: [laughs] Fred, George.
Jackie: Oh, right. I’ll get it right this time! Five older brothers and one younger sister.
Terrance:<> And he is… Kind of that person that’s always the sidekick and never the hero. Would you guys agree with that, more or less?
Jackie: I do. Especially in Goblet of Fire…
Eric: Yeah.
Jackie: …Because he even says he feels like the sidekick and not the hero, and that’s why they have their little fight.
Terrance: The reason why I feel like he’s – and I agree with this – is he’s always the sidekick and never the hero. He – sort of – of course the book is Harry Potter and – you know – whatnot. It’s following Harry, and it’s not following Ron. Ron is always the kind of person that tags along with Harry. Now I’m sure if we read it from Ron’s point of view, let’s call it: Ronald Weasley and the Sorcerer’s Stone – we would see that Harry is the sidekick, so it justs depends on the point of view that you’re – I guess that you’re reading it from.
Eric: Sure. He is a really round character. I think through seven books – I mean – they all are and that just that’s a credit to JKR that we get a sense of. But the action does happen specifically centering around Harry. It’s brought to – its brought up in Book Seven and you know Ron and Hermione both did not spend a whole lot of time with Dumbledore before he died, certainly not nearly as much as Dumbledore – as Harry did. In fact – you know – they spend almost no time with him so Harry’s reaction is that he’s the Chosen One but that doesn’t stop JKR from having come up with all of these compelling characters.
Terrance: And she – the way that I got it was that she created each character for a reason I mean each of the trio characters for a reason. She created Hermione because Hermione was always the easy button. That’s what I felt like. She was always – she always had like spell books available. She always had whatever they needed and especially in Book Seven. She had packed in that little sack that held everything. She packed everything that they needed before you know the first attack there, and Ron, I felt like he was just there to – I guess make Harry look good. I don’t know.
Jackie: Actually I disagree with that. I think she put Ron in there because they’re both like – Harry has reasons to be jealous of Ron. Ron shows Harry the life that he could’ve had – you know – with the whole family and you know being like – having a normal life and not being the Chosen One.
Terrance: Well I mean I really don’t – I don’t think – see your Ron – Gosh it’s kinda broad here.
Eric: I mean about Ron being there just along for the ride sort of thing I think that you know seven years later I mean they’re best friends. They’re inseparable and if there is a story to be happening it will simply happen among those best friends. I think – I think that – you know – his whole purpose its not that he had to come along he got dragged along but they’re friends. I think throughout the years you’re right about being sidekicks especially in the way that you know Hermione and Ron have both had to deal with Harry’s fame just like Harry has but they’ve also had to deal with not being Harry and have therefore you know resigned themselves to not being Harry and have committed also to follow him no matter what and to not let him go things alone. So it’s a very interesting relationship between Harry and his friends but Ron and his family that was really brilliant because from day one Ron has this you know big family that Ron is kind of ashamed of and ashamed of being poor and he’s all these other things. To be honest, Harry could use more of that but that’s what Harry wants is family, someone to care for him and which is what Ron sort of takes for granted at first…
Terrance: You know…
Jeremy: They’re different personalities and just it shows what they’re longing for, and Ron takes you know his family for granted and sees Harry and all his fame and glory and – you know – really wants that and you look into the – he looks into the Mirror of Erised in Book One and you know it shows what he wants – fame and glory and then Harry looks into the Mirror of Erised and he sees what Ron has with the whole family and something he never had.
Eric: You’re right that’s so interesting. I hadn’t thought of the Mirror of Erised in a really long time but that scene perfectly illustrates what those characters are about and I think she stayed true to that. I think she stayed true to that – that Ron. I think Dumbledore says it in book one that Ron is always overshadowed by his older brothers’ accomplishments, he wants to be different, he wants to stand out and I think the association with Harry does that but also Ron is a little bit – you know – self-righteous in a way that in book four he gets angry with Harry and they have that duel. In – not that duel, but that tiff. And in book seven he out – ups and outs and leaves them for a little while, and then comes back to save the day. He’s a very interesting character there.
Terrance: And that’s what J.K. Rowling explained. She says that: “Ron is the most immature of the three main characters but” as you were saying Eric “in book seven he grows up. He was never strong footed and most people saw him as Harry’s friend. His mother actually wanted a girl, and in the last book he finally has to acknowledge his weakness. But it’s exactly that which makes Ron a man.”
Eric: Did J.K.R say that his mother…
Terrance: Exactly.
Eric: …wanted a girl?
Terrance: That’s what – well, I quoted – it was on Wikipedia, I don’t know.
Eric: Gosh, that’s brilliant. That must have just slipped out because – I mean – that’s – like – there’s nothing in the books to support – necessarily to support that Ron specifically feels as though he is just another boy when what his mom wanted he got in Ginny – you know – she got in Ginny. You know – that he just feels like what the fifth or the sixth Weasley kid – the sixth Weasley boy? You know – he doesn’t feel like anything special. That’s amazing.
Terrance: See, and his personality. Let’s go ahead and go over that for a minute. Does it help the trio? Because his personality – he has a tendency to argue and that trait is so persistent. And we can see it in his relationship with Hermione where the bickering is a stable – is stable in their relationship, and is often how they best communicate. So…
Eric: I – yes, I think Ron perfectly balances Harry and Hermione. It’s interesting too because I couldn’t have, in my estimation, I couldn’t have come up with a character if it were me writing it – if it were anyone else – I think – to balance those personalities. But if you have – because J.K.R. knew what Harry – what those characters must do and so having Hermione there; book smarts. And having Harry there – you know – strait up courage or strait up less – you know. Ron being so emotion driven as he is has really – I mean not emotional in the way that Hermione gets emotional, but having him be that character that argues with the both of them, and having the whole – having there be a trio to begin with, is just really I think intriguing. And Ron being there – he really does balance them out. You can’t see it ending up the same way without a Ron character, you know, because Hermione is abnormally smart and Hermione – sorry. Hermione is abnormally smart and Harry’s got this abnormal fame, glory, and ability about him. So, Ron is the all together un-extraordinary character, yet he comes to terms with his own mortality and his own glory throughout the series…
Terrance: Now, I want to come back to just a little bit where you said that Harry offsets Ron and Hermione. If you notice, Hermione’s tone tends to be a bit more patronizing, and Ron is trying to be funny – it seems like, but it comes out more bitter and more sarcastic, and – I mean – the instant image that pops into my head is – was it the first movie where Hermione goes, “We’re not supposed to be here. This is the third floor. It’s forbidden.” I mean – that just pops out of my head everytime – you know – I think about Ron and Hermione’s kind of – kind of tones whenever they’re arguing.
Eric: Yeah. Yeah.
Jackie: Yep. I thought of Ron as this like really like laid back – like despite his tendency to argue with people like – it’s not even his tendency to argue with people, more his tendency to argue with Hermione. It’s just like – I always thought of his as like very laid back and like – he – like Harry gets so uptight sometimes, and Hermione is just so gung-ho for the rules. He was always just like, ‘Oh. Okay. We’re here. Let’s go with it.’
Eric: Yeah. He is – he is sort of laid back. He accepts things are they are, and I think what Terrance was saying to about – I think everything about his demeanor and his – what comes off as sarcasm, really is constructive to Harry because it allows Harry to feel that he is not alone in – for instance when Ron is complaining in the books about Trelawney or any of the homework assignments really, they – Ron is sort of more of a slacker or more incompetant – less competant than Harry is, and so it allows Harry to be himself, which is probably otherwise pretty hard to do.
Terrance: Have you ever thought about that maybe the characters themselves – I’m not talking about the actors – actors aside – but the way that the characters are developed in the books and the way that we’ve gotten used to them in the books, do you think the characters are typecasted to be a certain way? Meaning, Ron is supposed to be the psychic, slacker, kind of funny guy, who is grumpy and argues all the time, as opposed to Hermione. She is the one with the plan. She’s got the book smarts and stuff like that. Harry just seems to be caught in the middle of it and involved in everything.
Eric: No. The short answer to your question, no.
Jeremy: Well – I mean – I think that’s what separates the movies from the books so much is that with the books, whatever happens is – you know. It happens, and we can’t really argue with it because that’s Harry Potter. I mean – we look at the movies and for instance, what we were discussing earlier with the end the trailer. We’ll say that’s not what Harry would say or that’s completely not him. That’s not Harry, or that’s not Ron, and with the books, whatever happens, happens for a reason, and it’s them because J.K. Rowling is making the characters as she goes, and that’s what they would do, so I don’t – I agree with Eric.
Eric: I think – I think the roles – I mean – the characters are more organic than typecasts. I mean – society wants to see – you know – as this being just one of many hundreds of science-fiction fantasy novels out there, that the hero that – who’s a little bit – the imperfect hero, the books smarts sort of heroine, who’s able to assist the hero, but never be quite his equal. You know – it’s been analyzed, and I’ve been to literary analyses of the books, but I don’t think they’re typecast to be those characters. I think that is just sort of who they are. I mean – J.K. Rowling had these characters growing in her mind, and I think that the very nature – I mean – you see so many 3D characters that are incredibly well-rounded, and – I mean – Snape is so multi-layered, so multi-dimensional, and – you know – so complex that I don’t think they serve one particular character mold or one particular – you know -typecast, or that they hold one role at all, so I don’t think that – if that was your question, Terrance. If that was your question, I don’t think that they were typecasted to be those characters that – as if it were some – you know – a formular that everyone need conform to, that you need a book-smart person, that you need exposition, that you need this person for humor. Although, I’m sure that some of those things were drawn upon because JKR values humor, and that is why she continued her series.
Terrance: The whole – so the whole reason why I said that is because we – essentially, we’ve grown up with these characters. A lot of us have – you know – all the from Book 1 to Book 7. We’ve gotten to know them – I mean – almost better than we know some of our friends, and I was just saying that, if they were – you know – meant to be a certain way in one book, that – you know – it carries over to the other, and we’re supposed to expect that they’re going to act that way because of the way they’ve previously acted. It sounds – it’s a little bit confusing and like – I know – the characters themselves are growing up – you know – they’re going through certain things, but – I mean – that’s just what I meant on that part.
Eric: Oh. Okay. Yeah. JKR has I think maintained consistency in many of the characters, and you’re able to see slight changes in how they grow throughout the books. I mean – each character is sort of changing – I mean – with a particular emphasis on Harry of course – you know – which is where the books are – are – are weaker in supporting characters is that – you know – she’s documenting every year how Harry is different. Book 5 he’s so angry – you know – as opposed to every other book. That sort of thing – you know – and he’s changing a lot, but his – her other characters are changing too, and Ron – Ron is one of them, but we can always count on him for his wit and his [laughs] his many moments of self-dignified glory.
Jeremy: I was wondering whether or not it kind of moves from Book 4 to Book 7, and if – do you think that Ron would have left the trio had he not been wearing the locket?
Jackie: Definitely not.
Terrance: Oh, come on.
Jackie: He is so loyal. He’s loyal to Harry. He knew what he was getting into.
Terrance: He was a whiny, little baby throughout the first half of Deathly Hallows. ‘I want – you know – my mom’s home cooking, and I want to sleep in my own bed, and blah blah blah.’
Jackie: It was the locket!
Terrance: Oh, please. It wasn’t the locket. It was Ron.
Jeremy: Was it all when the locket was on?
Eric: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, maybe a little of it was Ron, but come on, how would you feel if you had to like eat weird mushrooms and stuff like that?
[Terrance laughs]
Jackie: I know I would be pissed.
[Jeremy laughs]
Jackie: Especially if I had no electricy – of course they don’t need electricity, but I would have my hair dryer, my hair straightener…
Terrance: Ron…
Jackie: …Anything. I hate camping.
Terrance: Jackie, I don’t think Ron would have to worry about that.
Eric: I enjoy camping, but I don’t think I would last with weird, wacky mushrooms either, so Jackie, yeah, I agree that I wouldn’t – that we would be not suited best out there, but I think it’s clear that the locket does excentuate all their fears and worries and woes and makes them feel a whole lot crappier about themselves but – in answering Jeremy’s question – I think that Ron still would have left, or perhaps I believe that it was best for him that he left. He needed to leave; he needed to understand sort of what he learned once he left and he – to be honest – he needed to get the crap kicked out of him by Hermione when he got back.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: He deserved it ,and he needed it, and if he – you know – had he not worn the locket, he probably wouldn’t have stormed out. Yhings wouldn’t happen that same way, but it would have been for the worst because he still would have been feeling all those things without having the strangth or rather the urge to express them. I think – you know – he would have just been a downer – you know – things would have been dragged on even longer – my God that part of the book things drag, and for him to not have done that it just would have been – you know – a little bit more depressing so I’m really glad that he was wearing a locket, and he did storm out.
Jackie: And besides, it made it so much more better when he came back when he was just like, “Ron!” Yeah.
Eric: He saved Harry’s life. He pulled him out of the pool of ice water.
Jackie: I know.
Eric: That’s so cool.
Jackie: Harry’s an idiot. I still can’t believe he did that.
[All Laugh]
Terrance: I think – I mean – that the locket…
[Terrance Laughs]
Terrance: I think that – oh God I’m getting ahead of myself. I think that the locket – his – I think we can draw a parallel there and I know it’s been done a million of times, but I still want to mention it – to Frodo and the ring because when you think about it, whenever Frodo wore the ring he felt weak, he felt – you know – angry, he just didn’t – really didn’t feel good and…
Eric: He ends up camping outside his home, he can’t go home, he can’t show his face at home, he knows what Ginny would do to him if he showed up and said I quit but, he just – he can’t bare that let down to his family because here he’s found – even though he doesn’t want to be camping – he gets to The Borrow, and he can’t – you know – he can’t bare go inside or seeking refuge. He ends up camping – you know – anyway, he ends up going home, finding that he can actually go home anyway and ends up trying to find his way back almost as quickly as he left.
Jackie: Didn’t he stay at Shell Cottage for a couple of days because he knew Bill and Fleur would accept him?
Eric: I think he did, that’s probably my bad.
Jackie: Yeah.
Jeremy: Yeah, he did.
Jackie: No, it’s okay. He like – I think he did go back to – he didn’t go to The Burrow, he thought about going there but then he was like, “oh wait, I’m a big coward…”
Eric: Oh.
Jackie: “…I can’t go there.”
Eric: That’s my bad, but if I can I wanted to – I just remembered – we were talking about consistant character writing on the part of J.K. Rowling throughtout the books. I think one thing she did that’s very evident – it was – oh geez, was it Book 5? Weasley is our king? Yeah, that was originally Book 5, wasn’t it?
Jackie and Jeremy: Yes.
Eric: That was so cool characterizing Ron and his Quidditch skills as being so emotionally driven and – you know – Ron’s – it’s all in Ron’s head, and if Ron thinks he can win then he can and if thinks he’s crap then he is going to be crap and it’s just totally, totally awesome that she – you know – obviously she knows the character, of course she knows Ron’s character – but was able to personify him through yet another thing – you know…
Terrance: Yeah, and…
Eric: You guys know what I’m saying? Like she added that trait to him, that he is so…
Alex: [as Snape] I don’t have a thing to say to that.
Terrance: [laughs] Nailed it.
Eric: …Shaky that it will affect his Quidditch skills. I thought that was awesome and not in any way unbecoming to his character.
Terrance: And so the final thought about Ron is: Ron is originally a favorite of the trio to actually die. Now, what would happen as far as the storyline goes if say, he died at the beginning of Book Six? Book Seven?
Eric: I wouldn’t have wanted to read further.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: I mean, but – that, that’s something that I think a lot of people would say, and then people would read anyway. Like people were trying to convince me before Book Seven came out – this was many episodes of Mugglecast – we were recording and of course there were all those bets – you know – ‘who do you think is going to die Book Seven?’. And I argued that the trio itself either would not die or did not have to die. A lot of my pessimistic or less optimistic Mugglecast co-hosts all said: ‘Well, it just doesn’t hold any water that one member of the trio or more doesn’t die,’. They said: ‘You know what? These people are in the heart of battle, they are right out there – it would be so unrealistic if J.K Rowling kept all these main characters alive,’. And to that I said well, okay, but you don’t need to kill – you don’t need to kill people just because they’re in the heart of the battle. I had a much better argument at the time – but against the notion that – that the trio had to die. And I’m very glad that J.K Rowling kept them all fundamentally intact. Aren’t you guys?
Terrance: Yeah – I mean, I’m completely happy…
Alex: Yeah! [laughs]
Terrance: … That Jo decided to keep them. And you’re right, Eric. I mean it would be virtually impossible to have all these main characters go into these battles and come out unscathed – or missing an ear or an arm. It would be unrealistic to have one come out not alive. I mean…
Eric: But the opposite! But the opposite is more or less what I felt more or less did happen. Was – in the final battle or in the first battle – Moody died but George lost an ear. I mean, that’s – that’s disgusting!
Terrance: It is.
Jackie: Yeah – I thought I was the only one who felt that way. That it was really, like, obscene.
Eric: That was horrific!
Jackie: That was disgusting.
Eric: It was absolutely…
Terrance: Yeah. You know what? I was so relieved that it was just an ear and not his life. [laughs]
Eric: I know, but then Fred died.
Terrance: Exactly.
Eric: So… You know, Fred…
Jackie: Oh God! Fred!
Eric: I know, I know but he died with a smile on his face.
Terrance: He died making it. Yeah.
Eric: That’s what made me very uncomfortable around, I think, Book Seven. Or one of the things that made me uncomfortable was the – everyone who did die. I wish that there was – I – there wasn’t supposed to be like a reason for it other than to say that it was war and there are casualties. But, I guess in the end I was uncomfortable with the series being about an end-all-be-all war. For – you know – the dark or the light side. I just – I guess I was uncomfortable because I love all those characters as I’m sure everyone else did. And so it was a bit rough but Ron being a favourite to die? I guess that’s because he was dispensable in terms that – you know – Hermione is the knowledge. She is the know how, and Harry is the do how. [laughs]
Terrance: Yeah. I mean…
Jackie: He’s the brawns, and she’s the brains.
Eric: Yeah. Exactly.
Terrance: …Yeah. And he was originally voted the weak – the weak one out of the trio. I mean – I don’t see Ron as weak. I see him as very very smart. He obviously has brains. He proved that during the Wizard chess scene. He know how to think three steps ahead, so I don’t really think he’s the weak one, and I don’t know…
Eric: But he did sacrifice himself to save both Hermione and Harry in that Wizard chess scene, which goes to show a little more about his character actually. It’s interesting to see if he – I mean – he repeated those notions like – he often in the series did feel less worthy, or he – you know – he really does like his friendship with Harry in particular and is sometimes self-serving – sorry, self-sacrificing – completely different thing – self-sacrificing in order to give that to Harry – to be Harry’s console and his company. That’s one of the things Rupert conveys nicely too. Even in Movie 5 if you look at it, when Rupert – when Rupert’s character – when Ron is defending Harry from Seamus – you know – in the beginning of the movie when Harry first gets to Hogwarts, he says, “Does anyone else got a problem with Harry?” That was a great scene. I love that, and then he goes into the dormitory, and Harry totally – totally – what’s the word?
Jackie: Shuts him out. He like blocks him out.
Eric: Blocks him out. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That was – that was a really good moment where it shows sort of Ron’s character, and I really enjoyed that.
Jackie: I did too. I – after that scene I was like, ‘Seamus! You don’t know what you’re talking about!’. [laughs] I got very angry at Seamus.
[Eric and Jackie laugh]
Terrance: You know – that’s something they’ve never wrapped up either was the whole Harry Seamus thing. I guess they really didn’t have time.
Eric: They did. They did.
Jackie: They did.
Terrance: Yeah, they did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s right. Oh wow.
Jackie: Geeze.
Jeremy: Yes.
Eric: That’s okay. We’re all allowed three mistakes in our lifetime like that.
Terrance: Hell then, I’m batting a thousand over here.
Eric: You could be batting a million.
Jackie: Do you think you’re going to win Harry Potter Scene-It?
Terrance: Oh yeah!
Eric: [laughs] Harry Potter Scene-It is a whole different beast.
Terrance: Yeah, so that – any final thoughts from the panel about Mr. Ronald Weasley?
Eric: Yeah. I have pizza. Let’s eat.
Jackie: Oh my God! Pizza.
Eric: I’m sure Ron would appreciate that.
Terrance: Yeah. Ron’s always hungry.
Jackie: I want pizza now.
Eric: Let’s eat. [laughs]
Jackie: I – Ron is like – you guys have seen Cinderella right?
Eric: Which one?
Jackie: The first one. The original. Cinderella.
Eric: The cartoon one?
Jackie: Yeah.
Eric: From the fifties?
Jackie: Yeah.
Eric: No.
Jackie: He’s like that mouse, Gus, that you just love because he’s so cute.
Terrance: Gus-gus! [laughs]
Jackie: Gus-gus! I love Gus-gus!
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: What is it with mouses? Honestly. Disney and mice. Mickey Mouse, the Great Mouse Detective, Rescuers Down Under, although that was a great movie. I guess I would just call it the Rescuers. There’s a lot of mouse – a lot of mice.
Terrance: Gus-gus?
Eric: I lot of mices. Mickey Mouse. Minnie Mouse.
Jackie: I love Gus-gus.
Terrance: Gus-gus.
Eric: Might Mouse.
Jackie: Yeah. That’s the Ron equivalent.
Eric: [sings] Here I come to save the day!
[Jackie laughs]
Eric: [sings] Says Mighty Mouse. He’s on the way. Where there is a wrong to right, Mighty Mouse will joing the fight!
[All laugh]
Jackie: Eric!
Eric: Here I come to save the day! Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.
[Jackie and Terrance laugh]
Terrance: So that does wrap up our main discussion…
Guess that HP Character
Terrance: …And our next segment – our final segment for the day – we are going to bring back a segment that we haven’t done in while. And it’s Guess that HP Character, basically one of the hosts does a quote – says a quote from the books/movies, does a voice. It’s whatever from one of the characters, and the other hosts have to guess what it is. So I’ll go ahead and start off with the first one. I’m going to go ahead and do a quote, and this quote it reads “Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can’t see where it keeps it’s brain”.
Jackie: Oh I know! I know. I know.
Terrance: What? What?
Jackie: Mr. Weasley!
Terrance: Oh what the hay!
[Terrance laughs]
Jackie: YAY!
Terrance: Aw man.
[Eric laughs]
Jackie: I think I just channeled some Becca right there.
[Terrance laughs]
Eric: Okay I’ve got a quote.
Terrance: Okay.
Eric: I’ve got a quote, “I’ve already told you you need to persuade Slughorn. It’s not a question of tricking him or Dumbledore could have done it in a second. Instead of messing around outside that Room of Requirement you should go and find Slughorn and start appealing to his better nature.”
Jackie: I know.
Terrance: Hermione.
Jackie: It’s Hermione. YAY!
Terrance: I got it. First. First. First.
Jackie: No, I’ve got it first. What are you talking about?
Jeremy: I’ve got a quote.
Terrance: Okay.
Eric: Go ahead.
Jackie: Go for it.
Jeremy: “Numbing the pain for a while, will make it worse when you finally feel it.”
Terrance: Ughhh… Dumbledore.
Jeremy: Yes Dumbledore, end of book four.
Eric: What a freaking awesome quote just to pull out.
Jackie: That was very obscure. That’s a good one.
Eric: No not only obscure, brilliant addigde.
Jackie: Mmmhm. Of course. It Dumbles.
Jeremy: I’d like to thank a google for that
Eric: Hmmm.
Jackie: GOOGLE! Duh! I could have googled a quote.
Eric: It Dumbles, but of course you found it on google so you have to make sure he actually says that. That’s awesome Jackie. “It Dumbles.” That quote defintily Dumbles.
Jackie: Dumbles.
Eric: Did you just make that up?
Jackie: Yeah, that is so Dumbles.
Eric: The episode title should be The One That Dumbled.
[Jackie laughs]
Jackie: That One That So Dumbles.
Eric: Or Dumbles, yeah.
Jackie: Dumbles, that was awesome.
Terrance: “Wanngoballwitme?”
[Eric laughs]
Jackie: Harry Potter.
Terrance:AWw.
Jeremy: Harry Potter.
Eric: I’ve got one.
Terrance: Okay.
Eric: “I well… uh I wish to deposit certain personal items in the room and umm… There was sombody already in there.”
Jeremy: Proffesor Trelawny.
Eric: Yes.
Jackie: Good one!
Terrance: Aw man!
Jackie: Oh my god I missed it.
Eric: Or I could do the Emma Wats… Emma Thompson. The Emma Thompson, Trelawny. Actually I lost it. I was Channeling it, and I lost it.
Jackie: Aww.
Eric: “Ahhh the grim!” “I wish to deposit certain items in the room but there was someone already in there.”
Jackie: Oh my gosh. Wait. I just had one! Uhh. Darn it.
Terrance: Are you sure?
Jackie: What were we just talking about?
Eric: Ooo ooo oooo ooo good quote. “So all in all not on of Ron’s better birthdays?”
Jeremy: It was one of the…
Jackie: Fred!
Eric: Yes.
Jackie: Yay! Happy Dance.
Eric: It was Fred reacting to Ron getting poisoned in Book 6.
Jackie: And he lays a – he puts a present on the bed.
Terrance: Wow.
Eric: It – yeah. It’s the beginning of Chapter Nineteen, “Elf Tails”. It’s the first..
Jackie: Whoo.
Eric: …It’s how it opens with the quote: “‘They were thinking of buying Zonko’s. A Hogsmeade branch, you know, but a fat lot of good it will do us if you lot arn’t allowed out at weekends to buy our stuff anymore … but never mind that now.’” “‘Blimey, it was lucky you thought of a Bezoar,’ said George in a low voice. ‘Lucky there was one in the room,’ said Harry who kept turning cold at the thought of what would have happened if he had not been able to lay hands on the little stone.”
Jackie: Story time with Eric.
Terrance: Okay, I got one more here. “‘What’s that?’ ‘Blimey, are you -?’ ‘He is. Aren’t you?’ ‘What?’ ‘Harry Potter.’ ‘Oh, him…”
Jackie: The twins.
Terrance: Yeah.
[Eric and Terrance laugh]
Eric: Oh, oh, him. Yeah. [laughs]That was awesome. That’s a good one in the series.
Terrance: Okay, so, that wraps up the Guess the HP Character and pretty much gets our show taken care of this week.
Outro and Contact Information
[Outro music plays]
Jackie: If you want to contact anyone of us at Hogwarts Radio, simply open your nearest window and catch your post owl outside. Please, make sure there is no screen on your window first and your owl knows where it’s going. All parcel mail should be addressed to: Hogwarts Radio P.O. Box 760035 San Antonio, Texas 78245-0035. If you don’t have a post owl, you can always e-mail anyone of us at our first names at hogwartsradio.com. If you have a Myspace or a Facebook, simply search the name Hogwarts Radio, or – you know – get our personal Facebooks. Feel free to follow us on Twitter to get the latest show news as it developes. That’s twitter.com/hogwartsradio. Also, it is a brand new – it’s not a brand new month. Well, it kind of is. So, it’s the first week of November, so don’t forget to vote for us on Podcast Alley. Dig the show at digg.com, and if you want to make new friends and talk about the show you can always check out our dead Hogwarts Radio Forums. If none of these outlets are exactly what you’re looking for, you can always call the Hogwarts Radio Talk-Back Line, which is 1-210-807-4088. House-elves are standing by to take your call, or Terrance. We don’t care what method you use to contact us, just contact us. We can only make the show better by hearing what you have to say about it.
Terrance: Once again, we’d like to go ahead and thank Jeremy for being on the show this week. Jeremy, thank you so much for joining us, and we’d love to have you on again sometime.
Jeremy: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Jackie: Aw, yay!
Terrance: So for Hogwarts…
Jackie: Sorry.
Terrance: …Radio, Episode Number 12, I’m Terrance.
Jackie: I’m Jackie.
Eric: I’m Eric.
Jeremy: And I’m Jeremy.
Terrance: And have a great evening. We’ll see you guys next week.
Jackie: Remember, we’re whales.
Bloopers
Eric: You guys know how dead the forums are. [laughs]
Jackie: [laughs] They’re dead like that bird, aren’t they, Eric.
[Outro music continues and ends]
Terrance: Sweet.
[Eric makes sounds]
Terrance: Eric, lets do…
[Eric continues sounds]
Terrance: [laughs] Is that the Mugglecast theme?
[Jackie and Terrance laugh]
Jackie: It was!
Jackie and Terrance: Wrong show, Eric! [laugh]
Eric: Huh? Oh, sorry, they blend together. You do so many of these – you know – when you’re me.
Jackie: Yeah.
Eric: It’s just…
Jackie: It’s hard to…
Terrance: That’s a blooper. That’s going in the bloopers. I got to collect myself. All right.
[Eric laughs]
Eric: I’ve got to pick myself back up off the ground in pieces. Got to collect myself, pardon me. Who says that? Honestly.
[Jackie laughs]
Eric: I’m sorry. I’ve scattered into pieces on the floor. I must collect myself.
[Terrance laughs]
Jackie: You sound like my econ teacher, Mr. Powers. He’s like ‘Ladies, if you turn to page three hundred ninety two, you will see we are in a recession.’
Eric: That reminds me of the – of Snape from Harry Potter the…
Terrance: [attempting to imitate Snape] Page three hundred and ninety four.
Eric: Terrance channels Snape.
Jackie: I wonder how many times he said that in the movie. I think it was like five times.
Eric: It was like the whole set.
[Eric, Jackie, and Terrance laugh]
Terrance: So our next e-mail reads “Hey Hog – Jackie” … [Terrance laughs]
[Eric bursts into a fit of uncontrollable laughter]
Jackie and Terrance: Eric!
Terrance: Oh that’s Eric?
Eric: [continues laughing] Oh geez.
Jackie: Who did you think it was? Me?
Eric: I should have muted, I’m sorry.
Terrance: I’ll just…
Jackie: [still laughing] He’s just like talking to himself like “Hehehe!”.
[Terrance clears throat]
Jackie: Okay. Terrance, go.
Jeremy: …and – you know – had all the – Yeah, I guess that was my question. I don’t know if we should go with that or not.
Eric: Okay. I think – Well, Jackie what do you think?
Jackie: Sorry, I totally spaced out. About what?
Eric: About Ohio.
Jackie: Ohio? It’s a weird state. I don’t like it.
Eric: Wow. You just insulted all our Ohio listeners.
Terrance: It’s a battleground state, right?
Jackie: Oh sorry. I have bad experiences in Ohio. It’s not you, it’s me.
[Eric and Terrance laugh]
Eric: That’s the best way to deflect criticism.
Terrance: It was good, you should listen. I was on there.
Jackie: I heard Terrance ignored you though, Eric.
Terrance: Oh come on! No.
Eric: Yeah, I was totally like “Terrance! My main man! It’s so good to see you! We just did that podcast! How you been?” And he was all like…
Jackie: Terrance was all like “Oh my God. Look at Andrew!”
Eric: And Colin peed his pants. Because – you know – he wanted Andrew’s…
Jackie: Colin almost like orgasmed. He’s like “Oh my God! Blah blah blah.” – Should I just go?
Terrance: Yeah, just go.
Jackie: Okay. If you want to contact any one of us at Hogwarts Radio, simply and cast your nearest post owl outside. Please make sure there is no screen on your window…
[Eric laughs uncontrollably again]
Terrance: What is wrong with you?
Jackie: Eric! Are you on crack? What is wrong with you?
Eric: Cast your post owl out the window, but make sure there are no bugs on it first.
[Jackie and Terrance laugh]
Jackie: I said no screen!
Eric: They’re crawling all over it.
Terrance: Oh my God.
Eric: It’s just rolling around at the bottom of the cage with bugs all over it.
Terrance: Cast your post owl outside, and make sure it’s not covered with bugs.
[Eric, Jackie, and Terrance continue laughing]
Jackie: Make sure it’s not dead first.
Terrance: So pick up your alive owl. Get a can of Off.
[Eric laughs]
Jackie: Eric needs to mute himself. He just pops out with the most random things like – He’s still going on about the dead bird in the box!
Eric: I think it’s important that before they cast their post owls out that it’s not covered with bugs! It’s a legitimate question because apparently some of our listeners have bug-covered birds! I don’t know!
[Terrance laughs]
Jackie: Dead, bug-covered birds, Eric. Dead bug-covered birds.
